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headlight cup and a good machinist loyal to our cause
« on: December 02, 2006 8:23 am »
Anybody have 1 of those cups for a headlight to sit in? I have 1 and my car isn't cool enough to have the bent connecting rod headlight mounts.

Also, a machininst in F/Mhd who has built these types of cars. I'm looking at this banjo and contemplating an axle update to 9 inch axles.
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RE: headlight cup and a good machinist loyal to our cause
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2006 8:58 am »
I don't know anyone in the FM that has done the axle upgrade. I will be doing the same thing on my 32. I know that Randy Gribble in Watertown has done it and I was planning on getting ahold of him sometime next week to see what it will run. He did mention to me something about needing the short side axle out of a pick up 9" but that is about all I know so far.
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RE: headlight cup and a good machinist loyal to our cause
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2006 11:24 pm »
The new Rod And Custom has an article on banjos.  I didn't have much time to look at it though.  It looked like a good issue overall.

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RE: headlight cup and a good machinist loyal to our cause
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2006 11:13 pm »
If i had a Lathe  the banjo would be easy... I am a machinest by trade, but i have no equipment... Just tools.

I definately need to get a lather and/or a bridgeport...  there is soo much cool stuff i coudl do...

You really dont need a lathe to do the banjo COnversion.  IF you have a carrier to support the splined end of the 9" axle, all you need is the 9" Housing ends(bearing house) and the jig to keep it straight while you weld
it up.  You can buy the Housing ends at just about any racecar place..  Speedway sells them...

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RE: headlight cup and a good machinist loyal to our cause
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2006 11:16 pm »
Oh yea, I think it was Randy Gribble that said the short side axle of a ford truck 9" is the perfect length...

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RE: headlight cup and a good machinist loyal to our cause
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2006 2:50 pm »
You need spider gears too. Hot Rod works sell them. Also '49-'51 Ford Axles and spiders will work. You will have to do some machining to get the spiders to work.
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Axles
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2006 5:44 pm »
49-51 car or pickup axles? Pickup I would assume to retain the bolt pattern eh?

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Re: Axles
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2006 6:08 pm »
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49-51 car or pickup axles? Pickup I would assume to retain the bolt pattern eh?


The article I have shows using car stuff. Cut off the housing ends, weld them on to the banjo housing, machine out the spider carrier and use the 49-51 axles. You get the newer brakes too.

Wounder if pickup spiders are bigger?? If not, don't see why you couldn't use pickup.
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RE: Re: Axles
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2006 6:27 pm »
Tom do you remember where you got the article?
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RE: Re: Axles
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2006 6:58 pm »
I think it was HOT ROD mag from the 60es. If I remember I look tonight.

I got a '49-'51 rear end to convert a banjo, and you though I only collected wheels. :D
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2006 7:13 pm »
dis confuse me grasshopper...what is difference between 49-51 and say 52-54?

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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2006 7:54 pm »
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...what is difference between 49-51 and say 52-54?


Not sure??? I'll have to look at the article again, maybe it went up to '54 :?
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RE: Re: rearend
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2006 9:40 pm »
the idea is to keep the big bolt pattern on the axles
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Re: RE: Re: rearend
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2006 10:11 pm »
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the idea is to keep the big bolt pattern on the axles


Yes I realize that is what most guys want, but I will be using the small Ford pattern.
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RE: Re: RE: Re: rearend
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2006 11:00 pm »
I just got off the phone with Randy in Watertown. He is doing this setup for a customer right now so he thinks he will have an idea on what the cost is in a few weeks. He does know that machining the bells alone is about $200 bux. He is just ordering new axles from Moser.
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