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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2008 11:22 pm »
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let me know when you get fed up with the multi carb intakes and i will sell you a 4 barrel intake so you can actually drive your car. :P



 E85 is the goal.


E85....so you like poor mpg and burning up the worlds food supply? :)
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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2008 12:03 am »
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E85....so you like poor mpg and burning up the worlds food supply? :)


Amen to this, when the government subsidies run out, ethanol will be 5 bucks a gallon. and it will go away.

lets turn our food into gas!  great idea... :roll:  :twisted:  :evil:

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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2008 2:13 pm »
The old joke if you worked at a gas station in the 50's or 60's....I'm going to go pump Ethel.

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Do the younger motorheads even know who "Ethyl" is?

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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2008 3:01 pm »
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The old joke if you worked at a gas station in the 50's or 60's....I'm going to go pump Ethel.

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Do the younger motorheads even know who "Ethyl" is?[/quote]
 
Ethyl?
No.

I know E85 gets shittier gas mileage and I don't have any experience driving a daily vehicle on E85 and the costs associated with it, so with running dual quads and 4:11 gears, would I save on fuel costs at $2.40 a gallon?
Besides mileage I have higher compression which alcohol tends to support, and I'm sure I can find hotter ACDelco plugs. I've also heard these olds engines are heaters and our alcohol engines used to run cooler on alcohol. Mostly just trying something different. E85 used to work great on B-modified engines. And looking around  :wink: most of us aren't starving, so lets burn up a little food!!  :)
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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2008 3:26 pm »
On Feb. 2, 1923, the first Ethyl gasoline went on sale at a roadside station in Dayton.

In those days, gasoline caused car engines to knock or ping. It was not only annoying, but potentially harmful to the engine.

Thomas Midgely and Charles Kettering, researchers for General Motors in Dayton, discovered that adding tetraethyl lead to the gas eliminated the problem. Kettering coined the resulting mixture "ethyl gasoline," which was dyed red to distinguish it from regular gas.

It was first made available to motorists at a Dayton gas station owned by Willard Talbott, a friend of Kettering. Of course, leaded gasoline was toxic to the environment and to people.

By the mid-1930s a collaboration among General Motors, DuPont and Standard Oil produced Ethyl gas. They managed to suppress government reports about the danger of the product and tetraethyl lead was added to 90 percent of the gasoline used in the United States. Leaded gas was phased out in the 1970s.

Compression ratio of the engine has a lot to do with it, also.  As the compression ratio of performance engines increased, the increased octane and tetraethyl lead was  necessary to keep the old hotrod going strong without burning valves and other parts.  Not all early engines had hardened valve seats, so when the government made us go to lead free gas, a lot of older engines suffered mechanically and of course performance wise also.  I miss the days of pulling up to the pump with the 427 and filling it with 106 or 108 octane (old rating) premium (.36 a gal.)and heading out to dust off some Fords and Mopars.  A couple quick street races usually paid for weekend activities and refreshments.  Now I have this weiner, but cool looking, flathead with 100HP--about 1/4 the HP of the 427.

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« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2008 3:34 pm »
Ethyl

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« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2008 5:52 pm »
I think my Grandfather ran on Ethel once and died later that night.....

Of course she was 20 years younger than he was.
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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2008 8:15 pm »
LOL. Only pinstriper. . . . I guess I've never heard leaded fuel called ethyl before. Tetraethyl. Got it. Was that one of the names you just didn't name your child back then?

I get it jake, no E85.

So, do traditional guys carry bottles of lead substitute around in the trunks of their traditional cars? I'm not rebuilding my 394 right now.
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« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2008 8:54 pm »
i rember the drop of leaded gas and pre e85 would laugh at the unleaded fuel only sticker on newer cars snice you couldnt get leaded gas any more
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RE: ethyl
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2008 10:06 pm »
I used to run lead substitute in my 60 Caddy.....dont know if it really helped, but I was told it could prevent valvetrain damage.
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« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2008 1:55 am »
I once knew a gal named Ethyl, ish...I got a bad picture in my head...