Suedes Car Club
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Eyeball on May 08, 2006 3:51 pm
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From the HAMB
Fired up the flathead for the first time in about 3 years (or longer). A little gas and she popped off in about 1/2 revolution of the crankshaft. My wiring job seems to be OK. Only thing left to wire is the kickdown switch for the overdrive. The "three on the tree" works excellent. I used a 51 Ford shift tube on a 1939 steering column and the linkage lined up like it was ready made for this application. The rebuilt master cylinder I had installed "shit the bed", so I bought a NEW one. The hydraulic throwout bearing seems to work good.
My humble thanks to "Vintakes" and "286merc" for the very informative posts on multi carb setups for 97's and 94's. I guess I'll be running 1 carb until I get the power valves and other stuff to do it right the first time. You guys saved me some serious money in "Tylenol".
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I had almost forgotten that he had that thing! :-) (Though I'm one to talk)
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Looks like a "rat rod" to me.
I had a guy at the swap meet this weekend ask me if I was a "rat rod builder" :shock: I said well I guess so :albino: Then he said he really liked that style of car. :roll:
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WTF, did a search on the HAMB..... couldn't find it!!!!
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http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108639
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I drove it around the yard on Monday (ran over a rather large pile of dog shit--had to wash the tires). Burned up a brand new AC Delco electric fuel pump in 20 minutes of run time. I have a pressure regulator in line to drop it to 2.5psi, I guess the AC pump didn't have a relief valve. I got another smaller pump that is 1-4 psi--going in this AM. My fuel line from NAPA melted in the first 5 minutes--I caught it right away (had 2 big fire extinguishers standing by for the first fire-up). The new good/better fuel line is already in. I should be able to flatten some more dog shit this afternoon. :shock:
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Only a fireman would have 2 fire extinguishers... Glad to hear the car is mobile.
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Ya want to take it on a test run??? Bring it to my place, take the cell phone with. If it gives you any trouble, call and I'll come and rescue you. :)
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:( Burned up another fuel pump this afternoon. The Mr Gasket pressure regulator regulated to 0psi. I took it apart and the piston seal was cockeyed and jammed the thing.
Tom, do you need some dog shit flattened over at your house, too? 8)
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hmmmmmmmmm sounds like you need a mechanical pump, your old flathead is simply rejecting the technology of the electrified pump :albino:
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This here is the "new" technology electric fuel pump from Purolator-Facet. The second one I installed lasted less than 10 seconds. After checking the Alternator (Mitsubishi GM style internal regulator) for output and my wiring and consulting with Tom Huber, Jerry Meidinger, Rod Hochhalter and (engineer for Facet/Purolator) Jerry Johnston in N.Y. it seems the new fuel pump design cannot withstand a voltage spike to the circuit board and Mr. Johnston said he had some calls on this causing them to burn out. He said to get an older part number (square steel type) pump and that should be OK. On consulting with the other experts, it was deduced that the "exciter" type circuit in the alternator was producing the voltage spike and burning out the circuit board in the pump. This I noticed as the pump quit when the alternator light went out indicating that it was charging. another remedy would be to install a diode in line to the pump to stop the voltage spike. A new "old style" pump is in and running fine. I took the neighbor kids for a dog shit flattening ride around the yard, and later I took my sweetie Kathie on a trip down the county road in front of the house. It's still working great. Now to finish putting the floor in and windshield and take it in for exhaust and wheel alignment.
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what brand and model pump did you get, i will be needing one too.
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The old part number for the 1-4psi is Facet 40104. You might need the 2.5-7psi for bigger or more carbs. I went with the lower psi for 1 or 2 94's. The black plastic "Posi-flow" pump is the new one with the sensitive circuit board. The older ones are square steel with an outlet on each side. I ended up with a Mr. Gasket brand one in the 1-4psi range. It looks like the same chinese pump that Purolator-Facet makes. If you do a search for Facet fuel pumps you can see the various models and specs.
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Well I'm glad you figured it out, what a pain.
Don't your have a tape measure to do your own alignment? :)
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Yes, I have a tape measure. I did actually learn wheel alignment in tech school and I will do the tape measure thing as a preliminary check. The way my suspension is set up I need all 4 wheels checked. I'd like to have my high dollar wide whitewalls last as long as possible. We still have at least 1 guy here in Bismarck that can figure out how to align these cars without going to a spec book for reference. Most wheel alignment guys now days cringe terribly if you tell them you have a "Hotrod" with a straight axle. If they can't get the specs in the computer they are lost. I was going to buy a magnetic caster/camber gauge and do a better "rough" setup, but I didn't get around to it. :lol:
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. We still have at least 1 guy here in Bismarck that can figure out how to align these cars without going to a spec book for reference. overspray
Which guy would that be???
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Well, I took it down for exhaust (straight pipes) and that's when I could actually hear the stuck intake valve popping back in the carb. I searched the net and the HAMB for some flathead Ford stuck valve advice and found some pretty good remedies. It was on #4 cyl (back right side). I lubed it with JB 80 and fired it up again--no luck. So I tried the "pry it closed with the screwdriver trick" and ended up breaking the screwdriver tip off, which, of course dropped in the cylinder. I ordered a head gasket and pulled the right head off and lubed and tapped until the valve was smoothe and free. Everything seems OK, just a stuck valve from sitting, which is pretty common on the flathead V8. The engine looks GREAT inside. I knew it was bored .020 and the crank cut .020, but it looks like they put new valve guides in also and did a fine job on the overhaul.
I did take it for a spin down the county road, in hopes of the valve freeing up before removing the head, and the 3.55:1 rear gears should work fine with the overdrive. I'm anxious to get the head back on and have it back up to it's full 100HP.
OH-- did I mention I hate getting greasy doing mechanic work?
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I'll do your mechanic work and you can do my body work! :fucyc:
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yea, Me too. i despise bodywork.
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Can I plan on seeing it this weekend at the run?
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Yeah I hope to see it at the run, or we will all be going to your house to hang out.
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If I can miss a train ride (not sure yet), I might be able to take it out for a little "jalopy jaunt". (got my HAMB decals in the mail). I have everything ready to reinstall the head (waaaay easier than an overhead valve engine). Today I'm finishing the last of the wiring on the overdrive kickdown. I scored a "Sew-Mor" de luxe table top sewing machine at a rummage sale, and Kathie is restitching my $1.00 rummage sale seat covers to fit the "vista van" seat.
OH yes Tim, I see by the picture of the Merc, that the "mysteries of magic dent erasing" are coming to full light on the transcendental plain of your Hot Rod existence. I think it looks GREAT!! Now comes the "troweling of the RAGE". (I think there's a post on the HAMB about that).
I hope I'm around to see you guys this weekend.
1 more cup of coffee and out to the shop.
Remember the anniversary of "D Day" today.
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Hope you can be there, got the T sorted out and ill be ther all weekend. would love to see your A this weekend.
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FLATHEAD IS RUNNIN' FINE!!! I got in last night and in between 2 fire calls, I got the head on and fired it up. WOW!! Big power difference from 7 to 8 cylinders. It really runs smooth. I'm gonna put the floor pans in today and the windshield. It's kind of rainy and dismal here today, but I think I can get in a cruise to the run. I gotta ride the train Sat. morning.
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