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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Serious on December 14, 2005 2:55 pm

Title: Parts have arrived! and some air ride questions.
Post by: Serious on December 14, 2005 2:55 pm: all my airide, and my 4link have shown up.

countdown of 9 days, till i actually get to go work on somehting.

hope to have the motor/tranny, 4link installed at the very least.

gotta make a mounting plate for the valves and such.

Now, i know i need a water trap, and i also heard something about an oiler?

Watertrap prior to the pump? or does it have to be after the tank?

And this oiler? i thought having oil in the bags would be a bad thing. i could see how it moight be good for the valves.

any info?
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Post by: Eyeball on December 14, 2005 3:39 pm: I have never heard about an oiler and as far as a water trap goes I would just put a valve on the bottom of the tank. Unless you need some type of dryer so the valves don't get rusty? I didn't use anything on the 48 but I had pneumatic valves.

So in other words :dontknow:
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Post by: Wowcars on December 14, 2005 5:47 pm: The only times I have heard anybody using driers on an air bag system is when they use it during cold weather(Helper bags for trucks, and etc.) Condensation in lines + cold weather = bad things. I would just put a valve in the tank and mount it easy to access and if inside the trunk, run a line outside somehow so you don't get that nasty water inside (obviously). As far as an oiler, this is the first I have heard about it. Unless you had steel fittings and were worried about water in the lines. But for all the systems I've done, I've never had a problem. I would not worry about it.
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Post by: Serious on December 14, 2005 5:59 pm: my valves are SMC brass ones, pretty good ones. so im not really worried about them corroding.

i might just put a drier on it, cause i happen to have a small one from an old air compressor in my dads shop. might help jsut to keep water out.

i cant wait to get to rip into this stuff., im gonna be posting before/durring/after shots of it durring the whole process. i am hoping to get it real low.
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Post by: CJHacker on December 14, 2005 6:29 pm: Most OEM units have a drier built in to them for what it's worth. My Lincoln has a reverse flow drier, so when the car sits idle, it dumps some air out, and blows the crap out of the drier. The only other time I've seen a drier is when a compressor conversion is used, i.e. an AC compressor converted over to an air ride compressor.
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Post by: AntiBling on December 16, 2005 12:00 am: I use a a filter on my setup on my 90, but I am running a engine driven York 210 compressor. The main point of the filter for my setup is because the York blows so much oil through the line the first month or so before it breaks in.

If you run a filter, make sure your pressure release valve is before the filter, so it blows before the filter does. A check valve should be after the filter so pressure doesnt backflow through the filter if it can, or the compressor.

Did your SMC valves come with moutning brackets or not? If you need some mounting brackets Im not gonna use mine.
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Post by: AnnieMac on December 16, 2005 1:47 am: yea, they came with brackets. im just gonna use a plate in the trunk for them along the side, so when i upholster the trunk there hidden behind the side "wall" if the trunk behind the wheelwell.

OOPS, The above posted is by Ratrodder26.

fogrot to log the wife out. ooops.
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Post by: CJHacker on December 16, 2005 3:08 am: Sure sure. Now we know who's REALLY building the car! ;-)
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Post by: AnnieMac on December 16, 2005 10:13 pm: See this is why we have two computers......He is logged in on one and I am on the other. I don't know how he is going to build a car when he can't figure this out.
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Post by: sko_ford on December 20, 2005 12:49 am: were all just a little slow eh
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Post by: Eyeball on December 27, 2005 5:48 pm: So where is the play by play or at least an update and I need pics!
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Post by: Serious on December 28, 2005 2:19 pm: Ive been to busy to post! hehe, 4link is in, fabbing the bridge for the upper bag mounts.

I will have before/after pics for the ride hight up on stands tonight i hope and ill post them

gotta get back out to the shop.

this has been alot more work than anticipated =)

~Aaron
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Post by: Wowcars on December 28, 2005 4:22 pm: That sounds familiar.
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Post by: Tom on December 28, 2005 8:10 pm: That's right you Melrowronights have the week between Christmas and New Years off. Hope you get half done of what you got planed.
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Post by: sko_ford on December 28, 2005 10:49 pm: and now a little hijack from the ford garage

the up rights are flipped and installed with spindles, disc brakes, brackets. and spring drop spacers. so a little adjusting fine tuning and were ready for the torch and tires.!

sko
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Post by: Eyeball on December 28, 2005 11:02 pm: Did you cut any coils?
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Post by: sko_ford on December 29, 2005 10:17 pm: no coils cut. so i took her off the jackstand and lowered the jack but its still under the engine cradle. yup its stuck. but one tire was flat. so air it up and i should be good to go. now last night i measured the cradle height on my father in laws 49 woody and from the floor to the cradle it was 9 inches. and on my cdan. i got 4 inches. pictures to fallow
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Post by: sko_ford on December 29, 2005 11:52 pm: one of the stuck jack and one of a screw driver to show scale
Title: Parts have arrived! and some air ride questions.
Post by: Wowcars on December 30, 2005 4:07 am: That screwdriver pic kicks ass.
Title: Parts have arrived! and some air ride questions.
Post by: Eyeball on December 30, 2005 4:23 am: I really like the composition of the screwdriver pic. In my opinion it is the best of the two. :albino:

You should post this on it's own thread you thief!

Looks like you have new shocks in too.......and you welded the spacers.......
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Post by: sko_ford on December 30, 2005 8:08 pm: ok so ill start a new thred. and back to chevy ideas lookie here

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85551
Title: Parts have arrived! and some air ride questions.
Post by: Serious on January 02, 2006 1:27 pm: Pics incoming, waiting for them to arrive, left them on my moms machine, adn she has to email them to me,

hellova week, 3 12+ hour days in the shop, car looks awesome.

going back next weekend to finish the motor/tranny mount.
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Post by: Eyeball on January 02, 2006 1:56 pm: sounds like you made good progress
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Post by: Serious on January 02, 2006 11:59 pm: Here we go...

(http://www.wrtc.com/arose/DSC00689.JPG)
(http://www.wrtc.com/arose/DSC00690.JPG)
(http://www.wrtc.com/arose/DSC00691.JPG)
(http://www.wrtc.com/arose/DSC00697.JPG)
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Post by: Serious on January 03, 2006 12:03 am: here it is on its wheels, UP!

(http://www.wrtc.com/arose/DSC00705.JPG)

DOWN!

(http://www.wrtc.com/arose/DSC00706.JPG)

I can get it lower really easily, were gonna try it here first.

at lowest point i still have 4+inches at the frame to the sxle.

Heres the bridge,
(http://www.wrtc.com/arose/DSC00707.JPG)
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Post by: Serious on January 03, 2006 12:06 am: Hers a couple of outdoor pics. The front is coming down a few more inches yet, and i have different wheels/tires for it.

i never got my stuff to convert my Mustang 2 to air ride in time so i didnt get that done.

(http://www.wrtc.com/arose/DSC00711.JPG)

this pic is with the bags totally full, to see where it would get me.
(http://www.wrtc.com/arose/DSC00712.JPG)

heres a coule other pics, My flathead and my dads nailhead for his model A.

(http://www.wrtc.com/arose/DSC00709.JPG)
(http://www.wrtc.com/arose/DSC00710.JPG)
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Post by: Serious on January 03, 2006 12:11 am: All in all it went real well. the way it is now, i wouldent have had to cut the trunk floor at all if i wanted to do it all underneath. its all flush with the top of the rail.

i am thinking eventually i will raise the top bag mounts an inch or so to get the car lower, but this is a good starting point.

the motor and tranny are going in it this weekend.

this was a lot more work than i was expecting but in a way it was wasier than i thought too, i didnt have to cut the floor for the 4bar, or anything. we wlded the rear end in solid to the car at ride height, and just worked from there.

I highly recommend this rear suspension to anyone using these cars, it was relatively painless.

Man i wish i had a lift, working under the car with a grinder and a welder SUCKS. i have all these little penhead burns all over my upper body and arms hahah. WOuld help if i wore a welders jacket and real gloves i guess. but then id be a wuss like TIM! hahahah Just kidding =)

Felt so god to get to work on my own ride. I CANT WAIT till i have my own place.

~Aaron
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Post by: Eyeball on January 03, 2006 2:15 am: Looks good. Once you get the front bags in you will know if it is set up at the correct height. Nice clean work you did too.

Sorry to hear about all your burns heman........:) I have no burns on my hands or arms but my face looks like I spent the weekend on a beach in Mexico :albino: Oh and Harbor freight has welding gloves on sale if you are interested 3 pair for 7 bux!
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Post by: Serious on January 03, 2006 2:50 am: i might actually have to stop there thursday to get some to take home. thats a good idea.
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Post by: AntiBling on January 03, 2006 5:00 am: Looks good. So can you hop it? :D

Better get used to questions like that here in ND.
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Post by: sko_ford on January 03, 2006 10:08 pm: bags are for groceries ;) but then again i'm cheep
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Post by: Eyeball on January 03, 2006 10:24 pm: Quote from: "sko_ford"
bags are for groceries ;) but then again i'm cheep

Your not cheap...your inexpensive. :albino:
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Post by: Eyeball on August 06, 2006 6:27 am: Serious........do you like the chop on this one?

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119338
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Post by: sko_ford on August 06, 2006 6:27 pm: i lilke it
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Post by: Serious on August 06, 2006 9:38 pm: Yes, SLant the B Pillars and thats pretty Close. maybe a little lower. but that is damn near right on.
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Post by: Wowcars on August 15, 2006 9:56 pm: When you bringin it home?
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Post by: AntiBling on November 04, 2006 9:09 pm: Bumping this up wondering if you ever got the front bagged yet?
Title: Parts have arrived! and some air ride questions.
Post by: Serious on November 05, 2006 8:04 am: Not yet... I dont have the car here, nothings been done since last Xmas on the 49... plans have changed. Im gonna notch the rear and make it lay frame..

so some things need to be changed.

I need dropped spidles for the front too.

~Aaron
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Post by: Ryan on November 07, 2006 11:59 pm: Laying frame may not be so cool if you have a system failure at 75 on the interstate. I would highly recommend bump stops to give some clearance. Trust me, it is also not cool to hit a pothole in the middle of the Ponderosa parking lot at 5 miles per hour.
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Post by: Serious on November 08, 2006 1:02 am: well, Figurtively.... i dont think with where my Front crossmember is installed it will be able to without some serious modifacation...

i just want it REALLY REALLY low. there will be a bump stop in it.
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Post by: CJHacker on November 08, 2006 6:07 pm: Easy removable bumpstops. something that you can remove when you're cruising, but in place on the highway.
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Post by: Eyeball on November 08, 2006 6:27 pm: If you MUST lay frame I would use blocks that can be bolted to the frame and then replaced as they wear out.