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Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: overspray on March 21, 2008 3:12 pm
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=190206972583&rd=1
Title: RE: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: racerjohnson on March 21, 2008 5:32 pm
:mrgreen:
Title: rocket
Post by: overspray on March 23, 2008 2:32 pm
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Eldelbrock-4x2-Hot-Rod-Rat-Rod-oldsmobile-303-324_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33550QQihZ001QQitemZ110235583135QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Title: oldsmobubble
Post by: eugenevik on March 23, 2008 11:11 pm
the  Edelbrock is deffinately cheaper
kinda miss the olds I had in a 53 chev   w 54 front and tailights I had a 1953 olds 303 w hydro, sold it and i  bought it  back w j2 manifold and a stick sure wished I had it now with the retro styles being popular

a fuel line [plastic] flew off one of the carbs and had fire on my arm [not burned] and it burned the top off engine just put wires on it again and sold it
Title: RE: oldsmobubble
Post by: racerjohnson on March 24, 2008 2:25 am
the cragar went for $480. I had it for $350 and some dude REALLY wanted it with 30 seconds left. Shot right to $480. Crazy.
Title: next time
Post by: eugenevik on March 24, 2008 2:58 am
next time wait till 25 seconds and give it your best bid
you too can snip him

on dial up it is a little iffy but can be done with a lot of timing and testingwon a lot and lost a few, little scared to play the e bay game any more too many scammers out there
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: overspray on March 25, 2008 12:19 pm
or--make your own multi carb top plate for this--or--- an old blower case minus guts with carbs on top.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Vintage-BLOWER-INTAKE-1949-55-Olds-ROCKET-Hot-Rat-Rod_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ34198QQihZ003QQitemZ130208972653QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: AntiBling on March 25, 2008 3:12 pm
Or put that blower you got on it.
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: Eyeball on March 25, 2008 4:54 pm
Quote from: "overspray"
--or--- an old blower case minus guts with carbs on top.



Yea then you can adapt some Chevy valve covers on to it too and eveyone will think you have a blown small block........... :albino:

I have seen the emply blower case b4 and I don't understand why you would go through all the trouble of installing one without rotors?
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: racerjohnson on March 25, 2008 5:23 pm
that blower intake is for a 6-71. I have a 4-71. There have been all sorts of cool intakes lately. Joel and I stacked 4 strombergs front to front (float bowls pointing out to the sides) on top of my blower the other night. looks almost like 4 webers sitting on top of it. Would need two fuel logs, one for each bank. The seed has been planted. A plate would be too easy. The one hole for each carb even lines up with the 4 studs on the blower!
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: 31Rodder on March 25, 2008 5:52 pm
let me know when you get fed up with the multi carb intakes and i will sell you a 4 barrel intake so you can actually drive your car. :P
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: Briggs&Stratton on March 25, 2008 8:01 pm
Quote from: "overspray"
or--make your own multi carb top plate for this--or--- an old blower case minus guts with carbs on top.



About the gutted blower case, would that work?  Ive thought about that before, I didnt know if it would run well or at all with the air/fuel running through a big empty space like that.  Could be neat.
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: AntiBling on March 25, 2008 9:15 pm
A blower with a clutch on it would be much cooler and you would save gas and have power when you need it in the post apocalyptic world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynRqQN9ymqY&feature=related
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: racerjohnson on March 25, 2008 10:40 pm
Quote from: "31Rodder"
let me know when you get fed up with the multi carb intakes and i will sell you a 4 barrel intake so you can actually drive your car. :P


 :lol: Ya, no kidding, eh? I have a stock 4 bbl carb and intake that I know works for each motor.  

One can install a 4 barrel in about 20 minutes on an olds if necessary.

I just like fiddling. E85 is the goal. This is assuming my car is "done."
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: JakesBackyard on March 25, 2008 11:14 pm
EEEE85!?......I thought this was a traditional rod.  It needs to run on Ethel....course you're probably too young to know what that was.

The old joke if you worked at a gas station in the 50's or 60's....I'm going to go pump Ethel.

 :lol:  :lol:
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: Eyeball on March 25, 2008 11:22 pm
Quote from: "racerjohnson"
Quote from: "31Rodder"
let me know when you get fed up with the multi carb intakes and i will sell you a 4 barrel intake so you can actually drive your car. :P



 E85 is the goal.


E85....so you like poor mpg and burning up the worlds food supply? :)
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: Serious on March 26, 2008 12:03 am
Quote from: "Eyeball"
E85....so you like poor mpg and burning up the worlds food supply? :)


Amen to this, when the government subsidies run out, ethanol will be 5 bucks a gallon. and it will go away.

lets turn our food into gas!  great idea... :roll:  :twisted:  :evil:
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: overspray on March 26, 2008 2:13 pm
The old joke if you worked at a gas station in the 50's or 60's....I'm going to go pump Ethel.

 :lol:  :lol:[/quote]

Do the younger motorheads even know who "Ethyl" is?
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: racerjohnson on March 26, 2008 3:01 pm
Quote from: "overspray"
The old joke if you worked at a gas station in the 50's or 60's....I'm going to go pump Ethel.

 :lol:  :lol:


Do the younger motorheads even know who "Ethyl" is?[/quote]
 
Ethyl?
No.

I know E85 gets shittier gas mileage and I don't have any experience driving a daily vehicle on E85 and the costs associated with it, so with running dual quads and 4:11 gears, would I save on fuel costs at $2.40 a gallon?
Besides mileage I have higher compression which alcohol tends to support, and I'm sure I can find hotter ACDelco plugs. I've also heard these olds engines are heaters and our alcohol engines used to run cooler on alcohol. Mostly just trying something different. E85 used to work great on B-modified engines. And looking around  :wink: most of us aren't starving, so lets burn up a little food!!  :)
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: overspray on March 26, 2008 3:26 pm
On Feb. 2, 1923, the first Ethyl gasoline went on sale at a roadside station in Dayton.

In those days, gasoline caused car engines to knock or ping. It was not only annoying, but potentially harmful to the engine.

Thomas Midgely and Charles Kettering, researchers for General Motors in Dayton, discovered that adding tetraethyl lead to the gas eliminated the problem. Kettering coined the resulting mixture "ethyl gasoline," which was dyed red to distinguish it from regular gas.

It was first made available to motorists at a Dayton gas station owned by Willard Talbott, a friend of Kettering. Of course, leaded gasoline was toxic to the environment and to people.

By the mid-1930s a collaboration among General Motors, DuPont and Standard Oil produced Ethyl gas. They managed to suppress government reports about the danger of the product and tetraethyl lead was added to 90 percent of the gasoline used in the United States. Leaded gas was phased out in the 1970s.

Compression ratio of the engine has a lot to do with it, also.  As the compression ratio of performance engines increased, the increased octane and tetraethyl lead was  necessary to keep the old hotrod going strong without burning valves and other parts.  Not all early engines had hardened valve seats, so when the government made us go to lead free gas, a lot of older engines suffered mechanically and of course performance wise also.  I miss the days of pulling up to the pump with the 427 and filling it with 106 or 108 octane (old rating) premium (.36 a gal.)and heading out to dust off some Fords and Mopars.  A couple quick street races usually paid for weekend activities and refreshments.  Now I have this weiner, but cool looking, flathead with 100HP--about 1/4 the HP of the 427.
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: overspray on March 26, 2008 3:34 pm
Ethyl
Title: If I was a "ROCKET-MAN"
Post by: pinstriper40 on March 26, 2008 5:52 pm
I think my Grandfather ran on Ethel once and died later that night.....

Of course she was 20 years younger than he was.
Title: leaded fuel
Post by: racerjohnson on March 26, 2008 8:15 pm
LOL. Only pinstriper. . . . I guess I've never heard leaded fuel called ethyl before. Tetraethyl. Got it. Was that one of the names you just didn't name your child back then?

I get it jake, no E85.

So, do traditional guys carry bottles of lead substitute around in the trunks of their traditional cars? I'm not rebuilding my 394 right now.
Title: ethyl
Post by: sko_ford on March 26, 2008 8:54 pm
i rember the drop of leaded gas and pre e85 would laugh at the unleaded fuel only sticker on newer cars snice you couldnt get leaded gas any more
Title: RE: ethyl
Post by: Lord_of_the_Dance on March 26, 2008 10:06 pm
I used to run lead substitute in my 60 Caddy.....dont know if it really helped, but I was told it could prevent valvetrain damage.
Title: Ethyl
Post by: tracywiedrich on March 27, 2008 1:55 am
I once knew a gal named Ethyl, ish...I got a bad picture in my head...