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General => Project Reports => Topic started by: JakesBackyard on January 24, 2008 9:14 pm
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I've been going to do this for a while and finally got all the pics together.
It's a '29 Ford Model A Sport Coupe....looks like a cabriolet, but the roof is stationary.
The first pics are Nov. 2004 when I gathered most of the parts together and bolted/screwed it together for a mock-up. Then it rested in a corner of the shop for six months.
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Summer of 2005 I chopped the W/S and doors and built a new body sub-frame. Was going to do more, but my shop fire put a hold on that.
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This fall/winter I was going to be hard at the A. Finally in mid Nov. I hit it pretty hard. The motor and trans were gone through and rebuilt, so I decided to paint and detail them and mount on a stand. The first pic is sealed, second painted and third put mostly together. Body will be the gold that the motor is painted.
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Finished detailing the trans and bolted to the motor...so converted my new Mac's engine stand to a eng/trans stand by welding up some tubing.
There's more to come, but I've got to go for today.
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Man that power plant looks GREAT. I love the color.
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I second the color compliment. What color is the car going to be?
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Thanks guys.
The car will be the same gold as the engine. I've been playing with a way to make Pagon Gold work with just base/clear for quite a while and finally figured it out. (Pagon gold is usually done in a tricoat method, but that's extremely difficult when you have a Model A type car that has to be painted in pieces and put together and hope they all match.)
The car will look early sixties (60-63ish). I know it is not all truely traditional, but will hopefully have the "look". Car gold, top and running boards white (yes it will have fenders!), interior white and some chrome to help set it all off. Early 60's were my formative years for cars.
I'm a ways farther and will post more pics tomorrow.
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Cool, there sure are some nice cars being built in this area.
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The frame is a Corn Huskers Rod and Custom package with everything except I had a narrow 8" rear, so I added the brackets for that.
It was all new metal and had not been damaged in the fire, but it's amazing how the rust took off after all the water was pumped on it. So I spent the last 3 weeks welding, grinding and sanding to prep the frame and all the pieces for painting. I painted it all with gloss black using single stage urethane.
I guess I didn't take enough pics of all the steps, but here is the frame ready to paint and then the frame together.
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Here's how it looked a couple nights ago. Drive train (other than driveshaft) is in.
Since then I've got the steering all in.
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So now it's time to get after the body.
I installed the cowl patches and roughed in some stuff. Then had it blasted last spring and got the deck lid and doors in epoxy primer. Lot's of work left to do.
My garage is on the Lisbon tour Feb. 2nd. The Coke machine will be full and running. Everyone is welcome.
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Jake, what steps do you go thru for painting an engine nicely, so it stays nice. The engine for the Edsel is coming back from wayne soon, and ill need to paint it and i want it to look nice. what prep/primer or whatever do you reccomend.
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I think my '40 will end up being gold eventually also- I really like that pagon gold...it's nice!
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I'm not sure there is a tried and true way to paint an engine. I've only painted a couple with anything other than engine paint spray bombs. Mechanics have always said too much paint will make a motor retain heat. I'm a body man/upholsterer so I always try things on my own stuff to see if it will work.
The big thing is getting the block and heads as clean as possible. If it has been rebuilt it was probably cooked to clean it inside and out which is good. There will be some oil and grease on it from going together, but that will clean off easily.
I started by buying a bunch of different sized wire brushes to go in my die grinders and cleaned and brushed every nook and cranny on the block with the heads and water pump on. Don't grind, smooth, and fill all the imperfections as this will also make it retain heat.
Once happy with the cleaning, spray it down good with a good wax/tar/grease solvent wiping and blowing off the excess. Remask for the painting.
If you are painting a good coverage type of topcoat color, one coat of an epoxy primer would be best on the bare steel, followed by two coats of a single stage urethane or acrylic enamel hardened topcoat color. This should last for years.
That's not what I did on this one. Cleaned good like I said. Then two coats of a gold 2K urethane sealer, two coats of my very transparent gold pearl base, and two coats of hardened urethane clear.
That "pagon gold" was a tri coat made famous by House of Color and some others years ago. My version is a mixture of PPG mixing gold pearl (70%) and a mixing yellow (30%). The trick is the goldish/tan sealer underneath it and then it is clearcoated. If anyone's interested I'll give you the #'s.
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wow i'm soory i missed this. i like it a lot very cool
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I've been hard at the body lately. Haven't taken any pics though. Should be pretty much welded (instead of riveted) back together this weekend.
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Been on here a lot lately....mandatory light duty for a while.....lots of surfing, reading car magazines.....and looking at the "A". Can't do any physical work.
Anyway....I was looking at Clark's sport coupe build on the HAMB. I had always planned on slanting the rear roof edge forward as I don't like the original straight up look they had. Once you slant the roof the rear door edge looks out of place being straight up. So a little photo taking and some old fashioned genuine cutting and pasting and drawing and I think I got it. Slant just the rear pillar of the door as I want to keep the visor. I think a visor always makes an "A". The little strip around the edges will be a chrome moulding.
Any way.....What do you think?
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Maybe move the windshield back a bit?
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Orrrrrr........:D
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I like the unchopped body with both "a" and "c" pillars slanted. You can pull it off! did you ever end up getting everything else welded instead of riveted? Pics!?!
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I too like the look of the visor on A's.
But when I look at the drawing of the door with the door slanted forward, it just doesn't look right to me, maybe its just the different shades on the drawing.
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Been on here a lot lately....mandatory light duty for a while.....lots of surfing, reading car magazines.....and looking at the "A". Can't do any physical work.
What?? you getting old? Oh never mind you are old. :shock: :D
I realy like the last one Ryan did, my vote is for that one.
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i really like that last one too.
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Thanks for the help Ryan. I was afraid it would look odd if the front post was slanted with the visor, but it looks good.
That is an actual pic of the car. Like I said - I did some old fashioned cutting and pasting and drawing and then scanned it.
I think it's because of the pic just showing the body, but it is chopped 2.5 inches. I did my sedan and the RPU 4" and they looked good, but with the visors it gets old bending over to see the traffic lights and stuff.
Most of the welding is done. When I get back to it, the roof will be next. I'm actually going to steel it all in and then cover it with conv. top pinpoint white vinyl. But now I'll probably slant the pillars next.
Here's the pic I started with, which is how it is sitting right now.
Thanks for the help guys.
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I'm back on the "A". Redid the firewall, built the seat and riser, and made the '40 dash fit. Lot's of mock up right now...either that or build a wooden car....lol.
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when you get done with that one you can do mein too, I gave upon it ,so did the last owner ,it just overcome me
i guess mostly I am going to steal the accesories off it and use them somewhere else i am updaing the roadster tranny and am almost done then i do body and engine in the 53 chev and give it air and cruise and lakers then in my spare time I am gonna do the 41 olds coupe , needs engine work body work and rework a ton of stuff like wiring and give it air cond and i guess with the current budget I will have to upholster it myself and get rid of the 3 in exhaust and give it some stainless lakers and hook them up other than that i am just enjoying retirement oh i have to get the truck going[ got the front axle out, too old to wrestle iron like i used to ] so i can hit the ISC circuit on the 9 th never had a show with a 2 day move in even Starbirds Tulsa with 850 cars was in in a day and out in several hours
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Looks good Jake! I like the '40 dash but I'm partial...
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I better get busy Jake, you are going to beat me done.