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General => Project Reports => Topic started by: Tom on January 02, 2008 9:02 pm
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If you know me you know I'm a wheel whore. Took some 16" x 4" mopar wheels and turned them into 16" x 5", nothing new here I have done that a bunch. The problem was the caps, I want to run '32 to '36 Ford caps so I made some adapters. Some of you might remember I was looking for some dome shape metal to do this with. I found the bottom of Freon bottles worked!! After cutting them out I hammered a lip to give it the thickness and the strength necessary to hold the cap, welded them to the wheel. Will have to do some bondo work before paint.
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WOW thoes turned out GREAT! I really like em with the $600 spinners.
What are they for? And what did you use to cut the rings out of the keg?
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WOW.
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:D
Nice stuff you've been doing Tom. wheels, gas cap, tin hammering.....what a guy! I'm also wondering how you cut the bottom out of that can.....and also how you bent the flange over? Keep talking.
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Well guess I got some "esplain" to do. Cut the bottom of the Freon bottle with a die grinder, and center punched a dimple for the compass tip to fit. After marking with the compass I cut on the lines with a right and left tin snips. With a ball-peen hammer I started to work the center of the adapter, this takes some time. Start by hammering over a small lip as the lip starts to form place the outside edge of the adapter on a board and tap down, keep moving and tapping. By using a hubcap I would check for size and out of round. Leaving the outside about 1/8" larger than it need to be I chuck it in the lath using the center hole and turning the outside to match the center hole. The adapter is about a 1/6 of a inch smaller than the crown on the wheel this leaves room for the welding and bondo work.
Does that make sense??
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I think I got the idea. It would be nice to have a lay....all I've got is the Hawaiian type.
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Everybody needs a good lay now and again, especially if you're a wheel whore. The hawaiian type would be juuust fine.
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What are they for?
The plan is to find some bias ply tires and run them on the '28 when I go to events that the people there will understand what it's about. :roll: Which leaves most of the local events out. :(
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all joking aside Tom, those wheels are awesome. I'd be too afraid to start welding on wheels, getting them true. Super job!
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all joking aside Tom, those wheels are awesome. I'd be too afraid to start welding on wheels, getting them true. Super job!
Thanks Pete. Lookin' forward to your shop being on the Toppers garage tour this April.
With all the dinkin' around I have done with steel wheels over the years I find most don't run true. Jack up the front of your project, set something beside the wheel and spin it. If it's bad take off the wheel and spin the hub and check that just to make sure. I'm betting that of the 4 wheels on your project at least two will show so some sings of not being true.
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Hey Reed check out the pic!! Looks like this guy found some sort of adapters to run caps. Than painted to match the color of the wheel.
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That is a BITCHIN little mod.
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Hey Reed check out the pic!! Looks like this guy found some sort of adapters to run caps. Than painted to match the color of the wheel.
You mean--there's another "WHEEL WHORE" on this earth!!
I think his freon cans were a different shape.
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Cool idea! Where did you get the spinners? I assume they are the same size as the '32-'36 Fords. My wife has 16" Ford steelies on her coupe but wanted to put Plymouth caps on the front. I think I'll try what you did, should work about the same.
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Cool idea! Where did you get the spinners? I assume they are the same size as the '32-'36 Fords.
I'd like to tell you they are the rare ones from Karl Orr. ( there is like 4 or 5 sets). But nooooooooooooo....... Briz the bumper guys sell them again.
$600.00 set of 4.
They are the same as `32-`36 Ford.
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I got around to painting them. Note the hi-tech paint booth!!
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i see that u found bbq motors !
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i see that u found bbq motors !
Yes I got one from Eugene from Grand Forks, the other one still works.
Also got one from Overspray. If anybody spots one at a garage sale please grab it for me cause you never know how long the ones I have will last.
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so do you just hold the gun still and let the wheels spin?
do they spin till dry?
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so do you just hold the gun still and let the wheels spin?quote]
No it's not that easy, but what makes it work so good is there are no runs. You let the wheels spin till they are dry. Depending on the paint, 1 hr if the paint has hardner in it, 3 hr if your using old enamel.
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I’m not that pleased with how they turned out, got a wobble in a couple of them. Will have to take them to the wheel shop and have them straighten out. They will be good enough to drive out to the salt flats. Now if I can get Overspray to sell me the two tires he is lending me.
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I really like the "look" Tom. :)
Quote "They will be good enough to drive out to the salt flats."
Are you taking the extra set of wheels along just to run on the salt?
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Now lets see it with the top off.........I guess I can wait untill Sunday for that. :albino:
The rears don't look as small as I thought they would.
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Jake, none of us race or "run" on the salt, were just spectators. What I meant was to drive out to and on the salt.
Tim, it’s the angle of the shot that helps make it look better. As for the top look close at all the wrinkles on the side, I had just put it up after it had been folded down on the car for two weeks, hope they come out.
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they look good
santa has not given you a circle shear and flanger yet???
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Tom it needs 750s in back man.... it NEEEEEEEEEEEEDs them.
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Tom it needs 750s in back man.... it NEEEEEEEEEEEEDs them.
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Tom it needs 750s in back man.... it NEEEEEEEEEEEEDs them.
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There is something wrong i kept getting an authentication error, and something about sending mailwhen i posted, so thats why the triple post.
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Ran into problems sending Mail. Response: 535 5.7.0 Error: authentication failed: authentication failure
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Been having problems posting too.
According to Mr. Eyeball back in the day they would run one size bigger on the back. If that the case that’s what I have done. 5.25 x 16 in the front, 6.00 x 16 in the rear. But your right I wish they were at least 6.50 or 7.00.
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Many Betes roadster
6.00x16 front 6.50x16 rear.
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that car still needs 700s or 750s... although the deuce frame makes it look a little lower.
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Wow...I think it looks great. Makes the ol Timex look more like a "timepiece"from back in the day.
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Thanks Tracy. :oops: :)
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Dont get me wrong tom, it does look great. i love the wheels...
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Not to worry Aaron, as opinionated as I am about how a car SHOULD look, I don’t always get mine looking that way.
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ya, the wheels kick ass.
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Looks good Tom. Maybe whatever isn't making you happy will grow on you. If you're going to paint it evenutally, it may look better with paint? What about the look don't you like? The amount of tire filling the rear wheel well? The skinny fronts?
I'm not sure what you're going for, but most of the cars i've seen with those running board aprons (is that what they're called?) from back in the late 40's had taller tires all the way around, and definately in front. I don't think most of those cars in the pics had white walls either and they looked cool.
I don't know if you've ever been to www.ahrf.com, but in the "photo gallery," under "hot rods" then under "roadsters" there are quite a few pics of good looking 28 roadsters with aprons. May help inspire. Its a great website.
I got the authentication failure too.
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I'm guessing back in the day they ran as big a tire in the rear as they could afford for the top end if thats what they were after ...and most likely I'd guess the majority just used what they could get (kinda like I still do)hahaha (what a tight ass I am) and if they got lucky and it looked good it was the new trend....just my observations from some of the old dudes I've talked to.
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some things never change right? I'd love to just call coker and buy a few sets of tires of all different sizes and just play. I certainly don't want 6.0's all the way around!! I'll get some good tires eventually. Hopefully before I drive the car. Do people sell tires at the pileup?
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Do people sell tires at the pileup?
I had some I sold in the swap meet last year. I don't remember seeing a vendor that sell new tires.
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we saw an single pair at the pileup in the DRIVEN CUSTOMS AUTO PARTS booth!!
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Two years ago there was a booth selling slicks too.