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Swap Meet => Wanted => Topic started by: racerjohnson on December 02, 2006 8:23 am
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Anybody have 1 of those cups for a headlight to sit in? I have 1 and my car isn't cool enough to have the bent connecting rod headlight mounts.
Also, a machininst in F/Mhd who has built these types of cars. I'm looking at this banjo and contemplating an axle update to 9 inch axles.
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I don't know anyone in the FM that has done the axle upgrade. I will be doing the same thing on my 32. I know that Randy Gribble in Watertown has done it and I was planning on getting ahold of him sometime next week to see what it will run. He did mention to me something about needing the short side axle out of a pick up 9" but that is about all I know so far.
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The new Rod And Custom has an article on banjos. I didn't have much time to look at it though. It looked like a good issue overall.
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If i had a Lathe the banjo would be easy... I am a machinest by trade, but i have no equipment... Just tools.
I definately need to get a lather and/or a bridgeport... there is soo much cool stuff i coudl do...
You really dont need a lathe to do the banjo COnversion. IF you have a carrier to support the splined end of the 9" axle, all you need is the 9" Housing ends(bearing house) and the jig to keep it straight while you weld
it up. You can buy the Housing ends at just about any racecar place.. Speedway sells them...
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Oh yea, I think it was Randy Gribble that said the short side axle of a ford truck 9" is the perfect length...
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You need spider gears too. Hot Rod works sell them. Also '49-'51 Ford Axles and spiders will work. You will have to do some machining to get the spiders to work.
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49-51 car or pickup axles? Pickup I would assume to retain the bolt pattern eh?
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49-51 car or pickup axles? Pickup I would assume to retain the bolt pattern eh?
The article I have shows using car stuff. Cut off the housing ends, weld them on to the banjo housing, machine out the spider carrier and use the 49-51 axles. You get the newer brakes too.
Wounder if pickup spiders are bigger?? If not, don't see why you couldn't use pickup.
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Tom do you remember where you got the article?
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I think it was HOT ROD mag from the 60es. If I remember I look tonight.
I got a '49-'51 rear end to convert a banjo, and you though I only collected wheels. :D
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dis confuse me grasshopper...what is difference between 49-51 and say 52-54?
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...what is difference between 49-51 and say 52-54?
Not sure??? I'll have to look at the article again, maybe it went up to '54 :?
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the idea is to keep the big bolt pattern on the axles
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the idea is to keep the big bolt pattern on the axles
Yes I realize that is what most guys want, but I will be using the small Ford pattern.
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I just got off the phone with Randy in Watertown. He is doing this setup for a customer right now so he thinks he will have an idea on what the cost is in a few weeks. He does know that machining the bells alone is about $200 bux. He is just ordering new axles from Moser.
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He does know that machining the bells alone is about $200 bux. He is just ordering new axles from Moser.
If you have to have the machine work done it's goin to be spendeeeeeee.
The HOT Rod mag article is from Nov. 1960. They used '49 to early'51 Merc so they could keep the 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern. Beside machining the carrier you need to grind down the axle gears to fit inside the carrier.
Got to thinkin it was Randy Zeller who told me to use 49-51 Ford. He had done it and said the spiders and axle gears didn't mesh that good.
My new ROD and Custom was in the mail when I got home last night. They show the Hot Rod Works doin this. I think if you got their side gears they would mesh better.
Interesting, the old HOT Rod article showed how to do it with junk yard parts, the new mag shows how to do it with advertiser's parts. :roll:
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Here is a link to their site with all the info.
http://www.hotrodworks.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=7&cat=Axle+Upgrades%2C+Ring+and+Pinions+%26+Components
The 28 spline spiders are $225.00
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The 28 spline spiders are $225.00
Waht me to pick them up for you when I go to Bville next year??
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HAHAHA no.....I have Randy getting me some stuff. I don't think I will be doing the convertion. I am going to run with the stock rear brakes, brngs and drums......that is if I can find some.
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HAHAHA no.....I have Randy getting me some stuff. I don't think I will be doing the convertion. I am going to run with the stock rear brakes, brngs and drums......that is if I can find some.
Same here, see what I can get away with. Stock axles, pitted bearings and races, pitted ring and pinion, lets race!
I have those drums and stuff for ya.
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the idea is to keep the big bolt pattern on the axles
Yes I realize that is what most guys want, but I will be using the small Ford pattern.
Cool, tom. Sorry, just trying to steer the ship a little. What car are you putting these axles and wheels on? is it the roadster with the aprons? is it time for a project progress report yet? I'm stoked to see it.
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Hey racer, no apology necessary. The banjo converted to new axles is for a 30 roadster project I want to do after I do my 34-35 Chevy coupe after I redo my '40 convert to a custom after I finish the aprons, hood, tires and wheels on my '28 roadster. It keeps me young. :cheers:
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I have those drums and stuff for ya.
Just for the record MR. Johnson is loaning me some stuff so I can roll so I still need a set of drums and hubs if anyone is hoarding them out there. :)
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HAHAHA no.....I have Randy getting me some stuff. I don't think I will be doing the convertion. I am going to run with the stock rear brakes, brngs and drums......that is if I can find some.
Same here, see what I can get away with. Stock axles, pitted bearings and races, pitted ring and pinion, lets race!
I have those drums and stuff for ya.
Pitted bearings? somebody say pitted wheel bearing?
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Pitted bearings? somebody say pitted wheel bearing?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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i don't get it. . . .
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Hey racer, no apology necessary. The banjo converted to new axles is for a 30 roadster project I want to do after I do my 34-35 Chevy coupe after I redo my '40 convert to a custom after I finish the aprons, hood, tires and wheels on my '28 roadster. It keeps me young. :cheers:
'28 roadster? pics? now i'm interested!
i can't get enough 28-29 roadster pics right now before i go down a certain fork in the road
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i don't get it. . . .
When Tom and I were on our way out to Fargo to hook up with the Hunnert gang I lost a rear wheel bearing...thought I'd get lucky with old pitted wheel bearings also, didnt work, but luckily I had a new bearing and axle in the trunk...You brought back a bad memory that was jus starting to fade from my memory...haha
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you carry axles in your trunk? dude. . . .
. . . .i just ordered new bearings and races.
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I did this time cause we were on our way to Illinois.
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[28 roadster? pics? now i'm interested!
i can't get enough 28-29 roadster pics right now before i go down a certain fork in the road
Mr Johnson, you hav seen my roadster, at the drags this past summer.
I am adding '31 splash aprons, cutting up the hood so it lines up better and putting different steel wheels with '41 Ford caps. So it will have a little diferent look this spring.
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ah, yes, i was wondering if that was the one. Thats a great picture.
Everybody, you can call me Pete. I don't know who the hell Mr. Johnson is, but thank you for the courtesy.