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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: 31Rodder on November 23, 2006 5:17 am

Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: 31Rodder on November 23, 2006 5:17 am
So I thought I would do the old Vinegar trick to clean up some rusty parts.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: 31Rodder on November 23, 2006 5:20 am
I used a gallon ice cream bucket and put about a quart of vinegar in the bucket and added the parts and put the lid on.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: 31Rodder on November 23, 2006 5:21 am
Here is a pic from day two, this is WITHOUT any scrubbing.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: 31Rodder on November 23, 2006 5:24 am
Ok this is it about 3 1/2 days of soaking.  The parts came out very good.
I was suprised at how well this worked.  I am going to have to find a larger container for other parts I would like to do.  Nice alternative to media blasting.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: wlspdshop on November 23, 2006 5:40 am
Thanks for info I will have to give it a try
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: Eyeball on November 23, 2006 6:18 am
WOW that did work great.
Title: vinegar
Post by: tracywiedrich on November 23, 2006 5:36 pm
Now that was just regular white vinegar right?
Title: RE: vinegar
Post by: 31Rodder on November 23, 2006 5:52 pm
yes just regular white vinegar.
Title: RE: vinegar
Post by: Eyeball on November 23, 2006 6:12 pm
did you cut it with water or use it straight
Title: RE: vinegar
Post by: 31Rodder on November 23, 2006 10:05 pm
Straight vinegar, just dump your parts in a bucket with vinegar and let the vinegar do the work for you.
i wish I would have tried this years ago.
Title: RE: vinegar
Post by: Eyeball on November 23, 2006 11:41 pm
So what does the vinegar look like now?
Title: RE: vinegar
Post by: 31Rodder on November 24, 2006 12:54 am
it is now brown, with larger rust granules on the bottom
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: JakesBackyard on November 24, 2006 5:00 am
Great Tip!  I have always used metal conditioner in the same way, but vinegar is a heck of a lot cheaper.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: Anonymous on November 24, 2006 5:37 am
Does coke work?  they did on Myth busters and it worked there.  Has anyone tried that.
Title: Metal conditioner
Post by: tracywiedrich on November 24, 2006 4:26 pm
Thinking about it now doesnt metal conditioner smell an awful lot like vinegar? Wunnering if'n someone didnt know this years ago and just sold vinegar as metal prep? naw, couldnt happen in this country right?
Title: RE: Metal conditioner
Post by: Eyeball on November 24, 2006 4:41 pm
Kinda like Gibbs penetrating oil smells and looks an awful lot like atf.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: JakesBackyard on November 24, 2006 7:38 pm
Vinegar has always been a good good wipe down for galvinized sheet metal to make primer/paint adhere better.

I'm going to put some rusty pcs. in some vinegar this afternoon to check Todd's tip out.

You're never too old to learn some new tricks!
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: 31Rodder on November 28, 2006 4:12 am
Jake have you tried any parts yet, curious to see if others have had as good of results.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: JakesBackyard on November 28, 2006 4:25 am
Yes, I put some old nuts and bolts in on Fri. afternoon.  I tried to find some old model A stuff, but didn't locate any yet. I looked yesterday and the vinegar was rusty looking. I forgot all about it tonight when I was in the garage.  I'll check it out tomorrow.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: Eyeball on November 28, 2006 4:31 am
I think I am going to try a 97 base I have that is stuck. Anyone know how it will effect brass?
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: 31Rodder on November 28, 2006 4:52 am
i am going to try sheetmetal next, I am going to put in the right front cowl panel and give that a try, Just gotta find a larger tub.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: JakesBackyard on November 28, 2006 2:57 pm
I went back out last night and checked. Next time I'll put on some rubber gloves. There was a black coating on most everything that won't wash off my hands worth a damn. The rust was gone! I threw some new zinc coated screws in to see what might happen....they are now coated black and it doesn't come off.  Chrome stuff was black also but it scrapes off.  I'm going to remove some Model A frame brackets today and see what happens to them.  Weed was right....after three days with the metal in it, vinegar smells and works on your hands like metal conditioner.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: 31Rodder on November 28, 2006 4:57 pm
yeah i forgot to post about the black crap that doesnt wash off easily.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: Briggs&Stratton on November 28, 2006 9:40 pm
does vinegar evaporate quickly?  Just wondering if it has to have a lid?

A friend of mine found an old rifle (something weird like a 26-40 or something) and everything is rusted solid, I was thinking he could take the stock off and put the barrel and action in a 3" diameter or so metal tube with a bottom welded on it, fill it with vinegar and let it sit for a few days, might work.

as far as brass, idk what vinegar will do to it, but I read on the hamb that it can be really bad for aluminum if it is left to soak.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: Eyeball on November 28, 2006 11:20 pm
I think I will toss some brass plugs in first to test it. I can get everything off the base but the shaft and butterflies.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: 31Rodder on November 29, 2006 4:38 am
I dont think that it would evaporate any quicker than water would, its just the smell of vinegar that kinda stinks without the lid.  If he does that i would like to hear the results on how it effects the barrel, he would still have to run a brush through the barrel to help clean it up after it soaks a day or two.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: Eyeball on December 29, 2008 6:00 pm
I used vinegar again this weekend to restore some backing plates.

Here is what they looked like before.

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x234/Eyeball32/1227081458.jpg)

I could not find a bucket that was big enough for the plates so I used a wheel with a garbage bag in it. I just used a bungee cord to hold it in place. I soaded them for 3 days.

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x234/Eyeball32/1222082204.jpg)

And here is what they look like after I took them out and hit them with a wire brush on the grinder.

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x234/Eyeball32/1227081537.jpg)
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: 31Rodder on December 29, 2008 10:32 pm
that is a good example of how well the vinegar works.
nice idea too for making a tank to put the backing plates in
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: JakesBackyard on December 30, 2008 12:40 am
Great engenuity with the wheel trick!  Looks like it worked good. Smells like crap though.  Are those for the Merc?
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: Eyeball on December 30, 2008 2:53 am
Quote from: "JakesBackyard"
 Are those for the Merc?


ahhh......no, they went on this. New project....:) but I am working on the merc too.
Title: RE: Metal conditioner
Post by: DeuceKustoms on December 30, 2008 3:46 am
definitely not!
Title: RE: Metal conditioner
Post by: DeuceKustoms on December 30, 2008 3:48 am
i will have to try the vinegar.  

i have also used the ole' Battery charger, baking soda, and water method with very very good results. gets off some really tough and scaly shit.  it seems pretty safe too, you would think electricity and water wouldn't be a good combination but i never got electrocuted yet.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: Tom on December 30, 2008 1:48 pm
Quote from: "Eyeball"
Quote from: "JakesBackyard"
 Are those for the Merc?


ahhh......no, they went on this. New project....:) but I am working on the merc too.


I would be satisfied with one quick change rear end. Some guys apparently have two!!  :wink:
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: Serious on December 30, 2008 3:09 pm
wow....  another QC..

hmm i bet i know what thats for...
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: Tom on December 30, 2008 4:22 pm
Quote from: "Serious"
wow....  another QC..

hmm i bet i know what thats for...


My guess it’s the cure for salt fever.
Title: TECH Post Vinegar
Post by: JakesBackyard on December 31, 2008 2:03 am
I figured it was going to propell something down the white lane.....and no I don't mean snow.

 8)