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« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2008 9:07 PM »
Yes I did. Is the axle resting on the frame?
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« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2008 9:07 PM »
Tim....keep going....lower the rear a little more, white top, white running boards, white interior......I'm getting excited.
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« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2008 9:09 PM »
My skills and software will not allow it at work.
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« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2008 9:25 PM »
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Yes I did. Is the axle resting on the frame?


No it's on the snubbers, about 3/4" between the housing and the frame. Might have to C notch it, don't know if the bage would collapse that far.



Sorry Jake, the running boards will stay black.
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« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2008 9:42 PM »
can the top please be white? It'd be a whole new car!!
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« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2008 10:16 PM »
yep lower it. it looks leval to me
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« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2008 4:33 PM »
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No it's on the snubbers, about 3/4" between the housing and the frame. Might have to C notch it, don't know if the bage would collapse that far.


Since it sounds like you're doing a fair amount of bodywork already might I suggest re doing your bags?  

A tube notch with a bridge, and then you can mount the bags to the bridge.  But if you make it go much lower I think you're going to have to change your link bars so your pinion angle is set right at ride height.  Personally even if you're using the original mounts I would've  bought some bushings and some smaller square tubing and made a link bar.
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« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2008 5:15 PM »
Heres a taildraggin chop.
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« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2008 5:16 PM »
Pete...........yes the top will be white


Tyrell........thank for the photo chop.

I lied......... I changed snubbers NOW it has about one inch before the axle will hit the frame. Wont go any lower, the bags are collapsed all the way. Will have to redo it this fall after I get back from the pile-up

Here's a couple of pics with as low as it goes and cardboard skirts. Had Char come out and look at it. She hates the fact that I'm turning into a sled. Her comment, not low enough, back to the drawing board as they say.
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« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2008 6:59 PM »
I think you might get enough with smaller tires to get it there, but I keep looking at the pics and there is an "illusion" that the top is going down hill forward.  The white top would help also.

Most coupes/sedans that are built as heavy customs have more wacked out of the rear of the roof verses the front to give the "illusion" of more tail draggin.  Most of the convertibles of that era had "Carson" styled roofs to give that illusion because it is darn tuff to chop a convertible (you probably know this already) and have it work right.  

Would it be possible to wack the rear bow any more without messing up the geometry?  Just a thought.
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« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2008 7:43 PM »
Jake, that's exactly what I plan to do. I have chopped the windshield post 2" , which makes for a vertical chop, if I remember right, of about 3 in. The back bow I left stock and the two bows in the middle came down with the front header. The middle bows set so high that people don't realize that it's been chopped. The plan is rework the two middle bows and drop the back bow also to give it more of a Carson look and still fold back.

Your right, any time you move mounting points, things change. I took a while to get it all working right. I made my folding top for my roadster too. I don't I think I would try a top that had rear 1/4 windows, that adds another step to the mechanism and I getting to old for all that frustration!!

When I built the car I did it with a forward rake and it gave it the look I wanted. Now I have to reverse everything I did then. This time with the body on the frame!!! :roll:
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« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2008 8:22 PM »
Tom I think its amazing how you can turn a car that was an amazing street rod into what will be an amazing kustom....very few cars get to have that transformation in their lifetime.  Another club member wit da skillz!
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« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2008 10:28 PM »
Tom - check out this page - some nice old chev customs.  And if you back up to all his albums you find all kinds of old pics.

http://public.fotki.com/Rikster/11_car_photos/customcars_i_like/chevy_custom_cars/40-41_chevy_customs/40s_-_50s_built/40s_-_50s_built/
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« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2008 3:35 PM »
How about this example?
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« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2008 4:12 PM »
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How about this example?


Yes you'll note, look at the rocker angle........... just a slightly lower to the rear. Back in the day, before bags, they weren't that low in most cases.

Now for the top, no way can I get that low of a profile, and still have a workin' top. This is also a newer and longer car than mine so mine will never look that long.

Looks like I'm going to have find a pair of spot lights.

Thanks Jake, for the old pics, if you find any more sendem my way.
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