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Tech Q and A => Running Gear => Topic started by: sko_ford on February 19, 2009 6:12 PM

Title: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: sko_ford on February 19, 2009 6:12 PM
so like a aaron said i channeled my mod like a dumbass. and now i'm trying to frind room for the trivial stuff you know pedals and steering box. my though today is could i mount my mopar box to the fire wall directly. stiffing it up like i would an anson style pedal sandwiching a 1/4" plate in between the box and the wall with some of the box either going thru the wall or in to a blister. or maybe steping it back but still mounting it to the wall?
Title: RE: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: 31Rodder on February 19, 2009 7:51 PM
No,  there is too much flex.  I have seen some threads on the hamb where they make a skeletal structure mounting the box  to that and that structure is welded into the frame or bolted to the frame.  I think there would be alot of issues mounting to the firewall.
Title: RE: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: sko_ford on February 19, 2009 7:58 PM
yeah i've been looking at the same pics and threads.  right now i'm thinking frame mount any body have an extra f1 or the line box?
Title: RE: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: Eyeball on February 19, 2009 8:00 PM
Why not just mount the box on the frame rail and scrap the cowl steering?
Title: RE: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: sko_ford on February 19, 2009 8:40 PM
that what i'm thinkin chief maybe some thing like bleed did on hid dads roadster
Title: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: tracywiedrich on February 19, 2009 10:16 PM
SKO, dont limit yourself to a F1 or F100. I have a box off a F6 two ton truck on my T and am very happy with it. The pitman arm is longer though, but that ended up being a good thing as I had to heat it and bend it to clear the split bones. Also, the triangular mount was not clocked correctly to fit inside my frame, but after seeing that Tardel usually welds boxes together for Av8,s, I figured I'd reclock the tiangle on my box by cutting it and adding the cut-off pieces back to make a triangle again. It worked very good and I couldnt believe how good this metal welds with a wirefeed. I ground every thing to a point and tacked and slowly started running beads. The truck boxes are usually next to free and I've found lots of dead trucks but very few pickups...
Title: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: 31Rodder on February 20, 2009 6:24 PM
I would build a structure under the dash and tie it all in to the subrails and bolt it down to the frame.  you have been wanting to do the cowl steering and it can be done.  plus that polished aluminum box would have a cool factor hanging under there.
Title: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: 31Rodder on February 20, 2009 6:28 PM
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77658&highlight=cowl+steering
Title: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: sko_ford on February 20, 2009 6:39 PM
my feet dont have room for any structre.  and i also have that ford box and cant seem to find bearing cages for it
Title: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: sko_ford on February 21, 2009 12:57 AM
refrence
Title: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: Eyeball on February 21, 2009 3:25 AM
What is the box out of?
Title: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: 31Rodder on February 21, 2009 9:21 AM
my gas pedal in my coupe is very close to the tunnel, which is what you have to contend with.  i still think you can mount it with a 1x1 square tubing structure.
Title: Space
Post by: tracywiedrich on February 21, 2009 2:39 PM
What you are up against right now was by far the most frustrating part of my T build. There is absolutely no room for anything. The one good thing you have going is not needing a clutch pedal too. You'll figure it out....
Title: RE: Space
Post by: sko_ford on February 21, 2009 3:46 PM
the non mopar box is 67 ford f100 2wd and the one in the pic is mopar and i dont know what its outa.

thats the one i sniped in st paul
Title: RE: Space
Post by: Eyeball on February 23, 2009 9:12 PM
Figure this out yet?
Title: RE: Space
Post by: sko_ford on February 23, 2009 9:28 PM
yep i'm gona crush it


no my folks were up this weekend and i didnt have time.  but the s10 is gone.  if i can fint the ford bearings i think it will give me the most room
Title: RE: Space
Post by: Eyeball on February 23, 2009 9:34 PM
Why not just get a 36-48 box and colum?
Title: RE: Space
Post by: Serious on February 23, 2009 11:29 PM
Sko, I know you probably dont wanna spend the money but Rock auto has a brand new one of those 2wd steering boxes  in its parts listing, but its like 275 bucks...
Title: RE: Space
Post by: sko_ford on February 24, 2009 10:04 AM
i really dont want to reverse a brand new box ;) and its late but arnt the 36/48 boxs cross steer?
Title: Re: RE: Space
Post by: overspray on February 24, 2009 1:09 PM
Quote from: "sko_ford"
i really dont want to reverse a brand new box ;) and its late but arnt the 36/48 boxs cross steer?


YUP!

Turn it sideways and mount.  That's what's on my A.
Title: Re: RE: Space
Post by: Eyeball on February 24, 2009 1:52 PM
Quote from: "overspray"
Quote from: "sko_ford"
i really dont want to reverse a brand new box ;) and its late but arnt the 36/48 boxs cross steer?


YUP!

Turn it sideways and mount.  That's what's on my A.


I also have one on my 27 set up for side steer....
Title: RE: Re: RE: Space
Post by: sko_ford on February 24, 2009 4:25 PM
well if i cant find my bearings does any one have a line on one?
Title: RE: Re: RE: Space
Post by: sko_ford on February 24, 2009 5:16 PM
macs no, lmctruck no, obsolete no, can any one else think of a sorce for the bearings?
Title: RE: Re: RE: Space
Post by: Eyeball on February 24, 2009 6:01 PM
Luter Ford?
Title: RE: Re: RE: Space
Post by: AntiBling on February 24, 2009 8:26 PM
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Title: RE: Re: RE: Space
Post by: sko_ford on February 26, 2009 8:01 AM
i found some bearing in kansas via cinninatti
Title: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: overspray on February 26, 2009 3:42 PM
Here's what ya need--- a "ROSS" box.





Title: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: Eyeball on February 26, 2009 3:52 PM
What is that out of?
Title: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: Wowcars on February 26, 2009 5:00 PM
We mocked up the Ross box out of my Studebaker at one point.
Title: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: overspray on February 26, 2009 5:35 PM
Quote from: "Eyeball"
What is that out of?


circle track steering of some kind I picked up at the Roadster swap.

(for the "Super Secret" Bonneville Interceptor)
Title: mopar/cowl steering box
Post by: overspray on February 26, 2009 5:43 PM
other options

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=ross+steering&_sacat=See-All-Categories